Twist in the Chapel St Choker - Brumby plea over violence
Oh dude… 
They Say:
PREMIER John Brumby and police chief Simon Overland have pleaded with Victorians to rise up against a growing culture of street violence.
The call came as six men, including three nightclub bouncers, faced court over separate bashing incidents this week that left Canadian tourist Cain Aguiar dead and footballer Luke Adams in hospital.
The comments came as three nightclub bouncers — Konstantinos Kontoklotsis, 32, of Brunswick, Nathan Karazisis, 24, of Burwood East and Mark Bogtstra, 21, of Camberwell — faced the Melbourne Magistrates Court yesterday, charged with assaulting Luke Adams, 19, in a Hungry Jack’s store in Prahran at 4.45am on Monday.
Kontoklotsis faces eight charges, including recklessly causing serious injury and affray, while the other two face five assault-related charges.
A spokesman for a security company that employed the men, Safety in Numbers, said yesterday they had lost their jobs. “We don’t condone any kind of violence and I’m deeply sorry for what has happened. I want to say I’m so sorry to the parents for their children being hurt,” he said.
We Say:
Right… so they were bouncers… Um… Err… Bouncers get trained yea?
THEN WHY THE FUCK DID THEY BASH A GUY TO WITHIN AN INCH OF HIS LIFE, RATHER THAN DIFFUSING THE FUCKING SITUATION?!?!?!?!?!?
They’re TRAINED to DIFFUSE situations… DIFFUSE!!!!
What the FUCK are their employers Safety In Numbers (Irony anyone?) fucking advocating!?!?!? WHAT the FUCK are they training them?!?!?! Hey guys…. Fuck it, when you knock off, just switch off, don’t use your FUCKING BRAINS when dealing with a normal non-work situation!!
This incenses me more than the attack itself… Sure the Employer will come out and spout some crap about “Oh they weren’t working…. They’re not our responsibility when they clock off, blah blah fucking blah!” I tend to disagree…. They HAVE the knowledge they do, BECAUSE of you, YOU TRAINED THEM!!!! Can that be any more clear cut?
And it seems that our friends down at Safety In Numbers have had some trouble with staff in the past:
Charges to be laid over Star Bar brawl, including bouncer
“A BOUNCER working at the Star Bar is one of three people who will be charged over a series of assaults in South Melbourne earlier this month.
The bouncer, 23, from Kew, was one of several men interviewed over brawls outside the Clarendon St bar in the early hours of September 15, which left two people injured.
The crowd controllers were working for Safety In Numbers Security.
Victoria Police said the bouncer, along with a 20-year-old man from Bellfield and a 31-year-old man from Southbank, were all expected to receive a summons for intentionally causing injury and recklessly causing injury. ”
Hrm… It seems some of the people working for Safety In Numbers have some issues… I wonder if the regulating body for security controllers will be knocking on their door sometime soon…? I would have hoped so…
It seems that Safety In Numbers does not have a website, either that or their SEO is as bad as their training… ahem…
I might just make a friendly phonecall to the governing body for crowd controllers to see what actions may be taken against them….
July 17th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
can’t wait for an update on this one..
July 19th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
wasn’t that kosnstok kiailsksisosk whatever the hell his name is….
a bouncer at boutique??
August 11th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Now the loser fuck kasisis is on bail hopefully the first thing he does is google his name so he can see what a fuck everyone thinks he is
August 14th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Actually the training of security and crowd controllers come from a Registered Training Organisation such as ISTA or The Australian Institute of Public Safety and not from the licensed firms that employ them. I think these training schools should be looked at to see how they actually train some of these guys…By looking at some of the crowd controllers in melbourne, it seems to me that anyone with a heartbeat can get a security licence these days. Good thing I got out of this industry 3 years ago. Getting way too dangerous.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
One thing we gotta remember though, these dudes are a regretable minority in what is, for the most part anyway, a passable majority of bouncers… Bad politians / public servents (Brimbank Council, state M.P Theo Theofoneos, and I’ve lost count how many cops are getting done for drugs), bad bankers (U.S banking culture led to the world economic crises) and bad doctors(Dr Patel in Queensland)…. So there’s bad f*ckers or dudes who just make mistakes all over the joint ya’all ; )
November 7th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
the funny thing however - is that when bouncers get bashed noone bats an eyelid… they have to deal with rude, arrogant, drunk kids/adults … they get no respect, nor does anyone at the venue actually think they are there to assist. i’ve seen girls arc up at guards, and the guard cant do SHIT. they are actually not allowed to hit patrons, yet a patron can hit them and everyone goes on there merry way?
With regards to the kid at Hungry Jacks, yes i feel sorry for him. no he did not deserve to be bashed the way he was BUT there are two sides to every story. Has anyone questioned wat he was doing at Hungry jacks, on Chapel St, on a Mon morning at 6am? no i doubt it, you all just blive what the media want you to know…. form ur own opinions rather than being MISlead by media sensationalism.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:22 am
You know security are some of the lowest paid workers in Australia?
Most of the guys in security who I would have rated as being good, have left the industry entirely as have I. We got sick of arresting someone and having him and 6 of his mates come back a couple of weeks later to even the score. I can honestly make more money holding a stop sign on the side of the road, driving a forklift, or sitting in air conditioned comfort in a customer service role.
Security cop abuse and violence on every shift, face stabbings and gang assaults, are never complimented on their work by anyone and are held in contempt by everyone including the 12,000 or so police who are now completely incapable of carrying out their basic tasks without the assistance and gruntwork of the 40 - 50,000 security officers currently employed in Victoria.
And you wonder why they lose the plot occasionally? When was the last time you were stabbed at work? Go get some real training and understand exactly how dangerous something as innocent as a credit card can be, or why it is generally accepted by everyone on the job (military, police, security) that there is no sure defence against a knife.
March 5th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
I can sympathise Alex, at the end of the day, it’s all about choices… Choosing to work in security… Choosing to choke someone out and drop them face first onto the floor unconscious…
Is anyone ever complimented and appreciated in any job they work…? I’m not…